Content_DV_XI
Overview
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09.-10.03.2002 |
Workshop
I: DWS and M. women, Suma Josson, Saratchandran (Sarat); film screenings of Ente Lokam/ My world films and SAREE,
discussion with director Suma Josson (SAREE) and film activist Saratchandran |
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4:03-4:38 |
10.03.2003 |
Inter-View
dalit woman and B. Schulze on our
experiences with cinema/ sinima;
her feelings about Muthanga (audio only) |
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Content |
Inter-Facing |
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Workshop
I DWS and M. women at Manganam Film
screenings: 13 Ente Lokam films,
SAREE |
->> protocol workshop I/ list of Ente Lokam films>> |
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0:00-0:06 |
Outside:
yard, inside hall: introduction by Saratchandran, 17 women and their children
listening, Suma Josson, Suresh, B. Schulze's research assistant who
translates between Malayalam and English along with P. |
ENTE
LOKAM - STHREE SANK-ALPAM (My world - A woman’s vision) |
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0:06-0:13 |
women
watch first video film on TV (one hears a child’s song from the film Ita ... Streekalude .../ 'See, here
... this women's self help group' ) by the women of M. ... |
Women's
self help group |
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0:13-0:27 |
discussion
and a.lokam / A.'s world by a dalit woman: |
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First a
woman from M. comments ... Schulze: „Did she ever go to dalit women's location?“ "No"... several women
commenting, P. and Suresh translate, one dalit
woman feels uneasy because the film was not ... really 'finished': morning to
evening |
(poor)
women are not mobile beyond their home & job |
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0:16 |
...somehow
the film not perfect ... Schulze:
precise impressions about film? Suresh sums up: „..they wanted to add something
... and then there is some discussion about DWS ... how do they communicate
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woman 'director' was basically very happy with film |
women’s
critique women
could not show in film all they had in mind |
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0:25 |
Schulze:
should they have shown the main woman ... in the whole day chronology? -
about problems with short films, how time is condensed in films, space
changed, etc. |
sinima philosophy: ‚film time’ is con- densed ‚real
time’ |
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0:27-0:32 |
l. lokam/ L.'s world - a woman from M. |
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0:32 |
discussion:
women sitting on the ground talking, Suresh translates, Sarat asks them
details about their lives ... |
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0:34-0:36 |
Suma
Josson contributes something on the specific difficulties of documentary film
making with small budgets, etc. [difficult to understand] |
difficulties
of documentary film making |
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0:37-0:40 |
E. kutumbam/ E.'s family [while
watching the women are more relaxed, laughing] |
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0:40 |
B.Schulze
and the whole crew in this film faced real problems because it became late
and dark, and there was no electricity ... „she was really in the fields ...
and then she came in the evening, had to clean… and within 5 minutes they had
to have breakfast and supper…” ... discussion |
poor
houses without electricity |
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0:43-0:45 |
Suma
Josson |
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0:45 |
Schulze:
do women of M. get a feeling for dalit women's location via the films?
women's discussion = |
films
able to transmit locations' atmospheres? |
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Suresh
translates: Dalit women's films
focus on family, M.- films on women's organisation and local people ...? |
women in
different locations make different films |
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0:47-0:49 |
V. lokam/ V.'s world |
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0:49-1:00 |
discussion
...Suresh translates: about this M2 woman's film, they find it good: what is
'realistic'/ not realistic? Schulze:
explains filmmaking: e.g. instead of clock they show sun etc. to indicate
time ... cinema works with allusions ...Suma: M2's husband the "first
husband I see doing this helping in the kitchen etc., women react amused |
women’s
under-standing of 'realism' women
amused women
appreciate husband in kitchen |
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0:55 |
women
listening to Suresh: in documentary films there are contradictions like in
real life ... Schulze: media are creative but can create wrong impressions,
too |
sinima philosophy: how films
manipulate ‚reality’ |
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0:57 |
->
danger of manipulation, wrong context of images |
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1:00 |
picture:
Schulze |
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1:01-1:03 |
anukamba/ Compassion by a Dalit woman |
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1:03-1:15 |
discussion:[rather
lively] Suresh: „... two ways of services in different churches... Schulze: „...she explained what is in CMS
church, and how it is in the other church, differences … this problem that
poor children even feel their poverty in their humble baptism …Suresh
translates: there should be people in the neighbourhood helping … |
CMS Dalit church - still
as poor person one is second class - there
should be more neighbour-hood support |
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1:16-1:19 |
picture
and sound: daughters of M. women singing duet |
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1:20-1:23 |
nangalude kutumbam/ our
family by a dalit woman |
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1:24-1:34 |
discussion
... Schulze: do M.-women see similar problems, e.g. unemployment? Suresh translates:
the problem is different ... -> if unemployed one should look for new job,
D1 folds paper bags at home ... credits are not easily accessible ...
specially for dalit women |
poor
women’s problems: -
unemployment - self
employment |
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1:35 |
watching
Suma Josson's SAREE (evening) |
SAREE |
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1:36 |
picture:
final credits (Malayalam) |
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1:36-2:24 |
10.03.2002,
(morning session) discussion on SAREE women
sitting in circle, Suma Josson speaks on her film, we are
having a very fruitful and deep discussion because the women feel that this
film is unusually addressing their live experiences, they feel the closeness
of themselves to the film characters, the relevance of the film's humanist
message to their lives, they were deeply moved |
poor
women discuss SAREE with Suma protocol >> Ø feel touched Ø like friendship Ø life&death Ø mother-daughter |
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2:24-2:27 |
film by a
dalit woman ente swapnangal/ My
dreams |
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discussion
... Schulze: „...say something about idea of a dalit woman to establish a
computer centre at her location ... for local women/ people“ |
poor
women and computer |
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2:31-2:38 |
S. lokam/ S.'s film |
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2:38-2:51 |
discussion
... Schulze: who runs the canteen
together with M2? Suesh translates: the canteen runs with „loss“, because
lesser students at university, less seminars, the influence of the strike,
and more women are also cooking for students |
poor
women’s prob- lem: self-employ- ment aggravates competition |
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2:51-2:54 |
V. lokam/ V.'s world |
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2:54 |
discussion
... Schulze tells her experiences while being the camera woman: the women in
Kurichy appear to be more mobile than the women in Mallussery …-> field,
office, … less things to survive, no space at home, too, more outside .. Suresh
translates: in Mallussery the women are also work-ing in the fields, men go,
but they didn't show it in films ... |
poor
women’s mobility |
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3:03 |
Schulze:
if there are difference between the two locations, why is that so? I do not
want to judge, just to know. |
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3:04 |
Suma
Josson: when for the first time I made films ... [hard to understand]
Schulze: why are M.- women in their films seen more in/ around their houses?
... |
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3:08-3:13 |
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3:13-4:03 |
Evaluation
of the Ente lokam-project: all the
women feel by film making their awareness was extended, to Suma Josson: „more
conscious.., aware of things… ways to change ...” But one
riddle is pondered about very seriously: all women face severe problems -
also within and from family - but they didn't address it, why? |
Ente lokam enten-ded poor women's awareness, but they
realised that they do not feel free to address their real problems ... |
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3:58 |
Schulze
asking Suma Josson about her opinion ... Suma Josson: in the case of ... most
of films unveil this role playing of women, of men ... due to patriarchy ...” M3 says
to Suma Josson: film-making is a very "easy thing" Suma tells about
her enormous difficulties with SAREE, |
poor
women find sinima "easy",
but future film making should address also problems |
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4:00 |
Schulze
playfully replies to M3 that and why film-making is indeed made very
difficult, but that it had been part of her strategy to made it appear easy
to the women (end of
workshop) |
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Inter-View
between D6 and B. Schulze |
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10.03.2003,
Inter-View between a young dalit woman in her end twenties and B. Schulze,
(just sound) about women’s sinima,
about police attack on the adivasis struggling for land at Muthanga |
D6's
views on sinima, on Muthanga etc protocol >> |
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4:03 |
Schulze:
yesterday meeting with DWS-women „which purpose“ and relation to our workshop
on 08.03.03? D6: last
weeek 2 days before workshop „friends came we shared our feelings on adivasi issue ... we couldn´t even
discuss, just shared our feelings … as well with male friend .. shared also …
all we talked to felt suffering, this type of feeling last 2-3 weeks…knowing
by newspaper readings…. They also
think, if it is we instead of adivasi
– what is our stand? Then, what will be our situation?” Schulze:
asking about source of information on killed Adivasi. D6: “..newspaper.. last
2-3 weeks all people especially women are reading newspapers...” ->
people speaking even during harvest „this time even in the field, the women
are talking about these problems... sharing their feeling.... |
Muthanga
shocked the dalits, made them
think, speak amongst each other, discuss newspapers Ø deep fear Ø will we dalits be the next target? |
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4:11 |
Schulze:
“what was new for you as information in Saratchandran’s film?” (EVICTED FROM
JUSTICE) |
EVICTED
FROM JUSTICE |
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4:12 |
D6:
brutality of police ... Schulze: which papers did you read? D6: Malayalam Manorama, Mathrubhoomi |
police
brutality |
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4:13 |
D6: „A
journalist was beaten up, police was taking... ...adivasi
were not provoking police ... also hurting women with this women police. This
is also a very brutal thing .. cruel hurting children also...they also make a
martyr of him ... they could have helped him instead ... this was
the background ... we arranged our meeting on 09.03. -> 19 women came,
even those who had been absent for long |
police
atrocities women
shocked about brutality also of women police poor dalit women compassionate with adivasi
experience |
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4:18 |
Schulze:
you know so much already, has this film changed your feelings? |
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4:20 |
D6: „I
feel it is our experience“ ...it is also our problem… Schulze: what if police
would act again like that time during 2000-01 when there was an agitation for
dalit people's rights in our
location? |
dalit women feel dalits-adivasis face similar
problems |
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4:21 |
D6: 1995
there were riots between Dalit and Ezhava community (low caste which had
struggled and won more social mobility against the rigid casteism) „2-3 months our men couldn´t go to work… to
every house the police came ... there were no men in the house … just women
and children ....we women of DWS started a peace rally, only women
participating and after 3 months all the men walked behind this, no riots
anymore…” |
Dalit – Ezhava riots Dalit women’s peace initiative was successful |
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4:24 |
Schulze:
“.. what about the issue the dalits fought for?” D6: “ …
at that time I was invited on a church study tour to Germany … problems with
police ... getting the certificate because I am from a so-called notorious
location ... ... but
then I got a passport... |
police
harass dalits because they are dalits |
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4:27 |
Schulze:
….sensitising the community: what happened at Muthanga does concern us,
too...? -> which reactions at meeting of dalit women? |
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D6:
„...they are all ...alerted during the last 2-3 weeks.. - first
reaction to our awareness building: women were upset: “it is too late …
should have been done before..” (adivasi solidarity) Schulze: How do women feels towards Janu:
“…she has decision power, energy … they all feel positive towards Janu, they
don´t like woman politicians like Padmaja ...” |
people
react too late against state-violence
>> Janu vs. Padmaja> |
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4:34 |
Schulze:
“.. all women feel close/ friendly to Janu?” D6: “Yes.
They all want to see Sarat's documentary as well… we also passed last week's
newspapers to read” Schulze:
“What happens now could really be a turning point to everyone?” |
dalit women admire C.K. Janu |
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4:36-4:38
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D6:
“..one of my neighbours asked me, wanted to share, about the Kutumbasree (state women's programme)
they feel the same as we dalit
women that there we never experience this sharing… Kutumbasree is not for women… |
state
women’s programmes (Ku-tumbasree)
are a farce |
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[Transcript
of ca. 60 seconds of interview did not fit on DV-XI, only on mother tape DV
mini] |
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D6: „All Kutumbasree sessions are like this:
waste of time, no results for women from Kutumbasree.” |
Kutumbasree no improvement |
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Schulze:
Maybe they collect these signatures for moving the state to provide a new
public water tap? (irony) |
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D6:
“That´s why we showed this being a farce in our film KUDIYIRAKKAPPEDUNAVAR
... Schulze: .. the women cannot expect betterment in their lives now ... D6:
That´s why we included it that way. There are no real discussions in Kutumbasree. Schulze:…only formulas …
D6: The Government says this Kutumbasree
is for women's empowerment, what type
of empowerment !?… Schulze;:
..Ya, ... it´s only a ritual ... D6: It is also not economic ... Schulze:
Yeah. (end of
DV-Mini) |
KUDIYI ...>>critique
of 'women’s empowerment'>>
programmes launched by state |
in "inter-facing" column >> indicates that there are more
analytical texts or materials on this theme under "Kerala Womens' Cinema
& Self Praxis".